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5 -Controlling shades from ShowRunnerCLC™ is a paid feature that can be purchased either with the initial [[ShowRunnerCLC™ order>>doc:showrunner™ Order Guide.showrunner™ Additional Features.Shades.WebHome]] or added after-the-fact as an additional charge.
3 +Controlling shades from ShowRunnerCLC™ is a paid feature that can be purchased either with the initial [[ShowRunnerCLC™ order>>doc:showrunner™ Order Guide.showrunner™ Additional Features.Shades.WebHome]] or added after-the-fact as an additional charge. When shades control or integration is ordered for ShowRunnerCLC™, it is vital to ensure that the BOM includes any required hardware is also ordered.
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5 +While we strive to always provide accurate and complete information, bear in mind that we cannot guarantee that any information provided here will be 100% accurate and up-to-date: always check manufacturer product specifications to verify features and compatibility prior to ordering hardware.
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8 8  = Crestron Shade Controllers =
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9 +Crestron shades are included in all ShowRunnerCLC™ orders, but hardware will not be fully defined in the configuration unless the required information is provided prior to configuration shipment. If the required information cannot be provided with the original order, it is recommended to order [[SR-SDC>>doc:showrunner™ Order Guide.showrunner™ Additional Features.Shades.SR-SDC.WebHome]] for additional after-order Crestron shades support.
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15 -== C2N-SDC/C2N-SDC-DC ==
11 +ShowRunnerCLC™ provides native support for most Crestron shade controllers as well as integration with shades controlled from third-party Crestron processors via Ethernet Inter-Systems Communication (EISC). If integration with a Crestron shades controller or system that is not detailed below is required, reach out to Chief Integrations directly to see about potentially adding support to ShowRunnerCLC™.
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13 +== Supported Hardware ==
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22 -== CSA-PWS10S-HUB-ENET ==
15 +ShowRunnerCLC™ includes support for the following Crestron shade controllers:
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17 +* C2N-SDC and C2N-SDC-DC
18 +* CSC Series Controllers (discontinued)
19 +* CSA-PWS10S-HUB-ENET (controlling QMT-series motors)
20 +* DIN-2MC2
21 +* Ethernet Inter-System Communications (Crestron-to-Crestron)
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29 -== DIN-2MC2 ==
23 +For any integrations over Ethernet, the lighting network must be configured such that the lighting control processor running ShowRunnerCLC™ can communicate with all required hardware.
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25 +== Information Required ==
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36 -== Ethernet Inter-Systems Communication (EISC) ==
27 +In order to fully define shades in the ShowRunnerCLC™ configuration, the following information must be provided by the Agent. Incomplete information will result in incomplete hardware definitions in the shipped ShowRunnerCLC™ configuration.
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29 +Non-EISC shades:
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43 -= Third-Party Shade Controllers =
31 +* **(Required)** Quantity of shade controllers
32 +* **(Required)** Quantity and location of each shade motor to be controlled
33 +** For all controllers, we must know which shade motor (i.e. window and room) is connected to each output
34 +** For systems with multiple CSA-PSW10S-HUB-ENET, we must know which HUB is the Cresnet primary
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45 -Lorem
36 +EISC shades:
46 46  
47 -== Contact Closure (Relay) ==
38 +* **(Required)** Type of EISC integration (TCP or UDP)
39 +* **(Required)** IP Address and IP-ID of non-ShowRunnerCLC™ processor
40 +* **(Required) **Joins to be used for shade control and feedback (see table below; not all features are required for all integrations)
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43 +|=Join|=(% style="width: 344px;" %)Description|=(% style="width: 6px;" %)Type|=(% style="width: 101px;" %)Direction
44 +|JoinOpen|(% style="width:344px" %)Sends a digital pulse when open is triggered|(% style="width:6px" %)Digital|(% style="width:101px" %)To 3rd Party
45 +|JoinClose|(% style="width:344px" %)Sends a digital pulse when close is triggered|(% style="width:6px" %)Digital|(% style="width:101px" %)To 3rd Party
46 +|JoinStop|(% style="width:344px" %)Sends a digital pulse when stop is triggered|(% style="width:6px" %)Digital|(% style="width:101px" %)To 3rd Party
47 +|JoinPosition|(% style="width:344px" %)Sends an analog value when the position is changed (0-65535 = 0-100%)|(% style="width:6px" %)Analog|(% style="width:101px" %)To 3rd Party
48 +|JoinPositionFeedback|(% style="width:344px" %)Receives an analog value for the current shade position (0-65535 = 0-100%)|(% style="width:6px" %)Analog|(% style="width:101px" %)From 3rd Party
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54 -== Draper IntelliFlex I/O A\V Gateway ==
50 += Third-Party Shade Integrations =
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52 +ShowRunnerCLC™ supports integrating with a wide range of common shade control manufacturers, but this integration is not included in basic ShowRunnerCLC™ orders and requires the [[SR-SDN>>doc:showrunner™ Order Guide.showrunner™ Additional Features.Shades.SR-SDN.WebHome]] additional feature. If integration with a shades manufacturer or system that is not detailed below is required, reach out to Chief Integrations directly to see about potentially adding support to ShowRunnerCLC™.
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61 -=== IntelliFlex I/O A\V Gateway RS-232 ===
54 +== Common Integration Methods ==
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63 -=== IntelliFlex I/O A\V Gateway RS-485 ===
56 +While most third-party shade controllers have proprietary integration protocols specific to each manufacturer and model, there are common industry standards which dictate the wiring and hardware requirements to integrate third-party shades with ShowRunnerCLC™:
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65 -== Lutron Sivoia QS ==
58 +* Contact closure (Relays)
59 +** No standard specified length limitation (individual shade manufacturers may specify cabling and distance limitations)
60 +** Relay control can be susceptible to voltage drop or EMF interference: it is highly recommended to locate the Crestron controlled relay as close as possible to the shades interface being controlled
61 +* Serial RS-232
62 +** 50' maximum distance per specification
63 +** Point-to-point communication mandates a one-to-one relationship of Crestron RS-232 interfaces to shade RS-232 interfaces (i.e. there must be one RS-232 port available on the Crestron system for every RS-232 shade interface; depending on the shades design, a single shades interface may control many shades so it may be possible that a system with many shades only requires one RS-232 connection to the Crestron system)
64 +* Serial RS-485
65 +** 4000' maximum distance per specification (individual shades manufacturers may specify lower cabling and distance limitations, and real-world conditions may reduce the actual maximum distance that can be achieved before system performance is noticeably impacted)
66 +** Multidrop communications allows for daisy-chain and star wiring topologies, up to 32 devices per Crestron RS-485 interface (shades manufacturers may specify lower device counts)
67 +* TCP/IP communication (including HTTP/HTTPS, TelNet, etc.)
68 +** Standard [[Ethernet wiring limitations>>doc:SHOWRUNNER™ Setup Guide.Troubleshooting Guide.Troubleshooting.Ethernet Wiring Overview.WebHome]] apply
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70 +Below is a non-exhaustive table showing which pieces of Crestron hardware have interfaces for each kind of integration (all processors are capable of TCP/IP integration provided the network has been configured correctly):
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72 -=== Sivoia QS RS-232 ===
72 +|=Hardware|=Relay Outputs|=RS-485 Serial Ports|=RS-232 Serial Ports
73 +|C2N-IO|2|✖|1
74 +|INET-IOEX-RYIO|2|✖|✖
75 +|CP3N / CP4N|8|1*|3*
76 +|DIN-IO8|8|✖|✖
77 +|DIN-AP3 / DIN-AP4|4|2*|2*
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79 +GLPAC-DIMFLV4-PM / GLPAC-DIMFLV8-PM
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82 +|RMC3 / RMC4|2|1*|1*
83 +|ZUM-HUB4|✖|✖|✖
84 +|(% colspan="4" %)* Some serial ports are dual-purpose and can be //either// RS-485 //or// RS-232; other serial ports are //only// RS-232
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74 -=== Sivoia QS TelNet ===
86 +== Contact Closure (Relays) ==
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88 +ShowRunnerCLC™ can use output relays on Crestron hardware to control shades provided that the shades controller is capable of accepting a contact closure input for third-party control of the shades. All contact closure shade integrations are assumed to use two relays per shade zone with standard outputs as follows:
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90 +* Open: close relay 1
91 +* Close: close relay 2
92 +* Stop: close both relays simultaneously
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94 +Shade motors must be wired accordingly by the EC or the shades contractor (Chief Integrations technicians do not touch wiring). If the shades interfaces cannot be controlled this way, contact Chief Integrations to see about possibilities for support for shade controls using either a single relay or three or more relays per zone.
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96 +=== Hardware Requirements ===
97 +
98 +* Crestron devices with output relays must be specified (refer to [[the above table>>doc:SHOWRUNNER™ Integrations Guide.Integration Options.Shades Integrations.WebHome||anchor="HCommonIntegrationMethods"]] for commonly specified hardware)
99 +* Two Crestron output relays must be available for each zone of shades to be controlled
100 +** Depending on the shade hardware and the job requirements, it may be possible to combine multiple shades to be controlled together onto a single pair of Crestron relays
101 +* It is recommended that shade interfaces be installed as close as possible to the Crestron relays controlling them to prevent issues from voltage drop or EMF interference in the wiring between the relay and the shade interface
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103 +=== Information Requirements ===
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105 +* **(Required)** Quantity and location of Crestron devices to be used for contact closure shade control
106 +* **(Required)** Quantity and locations of shade zones to be controlled
107 +* **(Required)** Information associating each shade zone with a relay pair
108 +** If C2N-IO or other in-field relay modules are being used, then we must know which shade(s) in which room(s) are controlled by each C2N-IO
109 +** If a processor or other in-panel modules are being used, then we must know which shade(s) in which room(s) are controlled by relays 1 & 2, which are controlled by relays 3 & 4, etc. for each module
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111 +== Draper IntelliFlex I/O A\V Gateway ==
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114 +RS-232 or RS-485 integration supported
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116 +== Lutron Sivoia QS ==
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119 +RS-232 or TelNet integration supported
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76 76  == Lutron Quantum ==
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124 +RS-232 or TelNet integration supported
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83 -=== Quantum RS-232 ===
126 +== MechoNet Network Interface (MNI) ==
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85 -=== Quantum TelNet ===
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129 +Mecho Shade's MechoNet Network Interface (MNI) allows integrating control of MechoNet hardware with third-party systems such as ShowRunnerCLC™ through a variety of different means. ShowRunnerCLC™ currently only supports using RS-232 or contact closure integrations: reach out to Chief Integrations for pricing if RS-485 or IR integrations are required.
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87 -== MechoNet Interface (MNI) ==
131 +=== Hardware Requirements ===
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133 +Refer to [[the above table>>doc:SHOWRUNNER™ Integrations Guide.Integration Options.Shades Integrations.WebHome||anchor="HCommonIntegrationMethods"]] for general hardware compatibility. MNI-specific details are below depending on how shades are being integrated:
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94 -=== MNI RS-232 ===
135 +* For RS-232 integration:
136 +** One RS-232 port on the ShowRunnerCLC™ system must be available for each MNI to be integrated
137 +** Depending on how the MechoNet system is designed, it may be possible to control many shades through a single RS-232 integration provided that any additional MNI and controlled MechoNet hardware is networked together and configured on the MechoNet side
138 +* For contact closure integration:
139 +** Contact closure integration utilizes the MNI switch input ports: **it is not possible to use contact closure integration if Mecho switches are installed to control the shades**
140 +** Two relays must be available for each Mecho motor to be controlled (it is possible to control multiple Mecho motors from a single relay pair provided that the MNI switch ports are wired in parallel)
141 +* For RS-485 or IR integration, reach out to Chief Integrations for potentially adding these integrations
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96 -== Mecho SolarTrac4 ==
143 +=== Information Requirements ===
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145 +Specific information requirements depend on which method of integration is required:
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103 -=== SolarTrac4 BACnet ===
147 +* **(Required) **Whether integration is being done through RS-232 or contact closures
148 +* For RS-232 integration:
149 +** (Required) whether shades are controlled by MechoNet group or by individual shade address
150 +* For contact closure integration:
151 +** **(Required)** all information specified in the [[general contact closure>>doc:SHOWRUNNER™ Integrations Guide.Integration Options.Shades Integrations.WebHome||anchor="HInformationRequirements"]] section above
152 +** **(Required)** which shades are controlled by which motor output on each MNI, and which Crestron relays those outputs are expected to correspond to
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105 -== Nice DMBM ==
154 +== Mecho SolarTrac4 ==
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157 +Only BACnet integration supported
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112 -=== DMBM RS-232 ===
159 +== Nice DMBM ==
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162 +Only RS-232 integration supported
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114 114  == Somfy Digital Network (SDN) ==
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121 121  === SDN RS-485 ===
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127 127  == Somfy URTSI II ==
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175 +RS-232 or RS-485 integration supported
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134 -=== URTSI II RS-232 ===
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136 -=== URTSI II RS-485 ===
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